Guest Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 These are four captains that stand out as poor in my opinion. It's tough to find bad captains because chances are, Starfleet is not going to give the captain's chair to a bad captain.
Nathan Baker Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 Somehow I think I had a hand in setting this one up. Esteban. Defintely.
Jordan aka FltAdmlWolf Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 I went with Ransom. His actions were completely inexcusable -- even with the position he was in. The Nova's a good ship, and the compact crew should have meant that they wouldn't need too many resources to shuttle along. He shouldn't have killed those poor wraiths!
+ TyrWaltas Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 I went with Harriman. To sit in the Captain's chair of the Enterprise and be the indecisive coward that he was shamed the ship and the crew. Couldn't stand the guy.
Idril Mar Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 I'm surprised, Mal. No Admiral Pressman? (from "The Pegasus")Harriman I give the benefit of the doubt to. He was in the chair as a first-time Captain with three legends standing behind him. Esteban I give the benefit of the doubt to as well. After all, Khan was engineered to be superior... Kirk had problems with him. That leaves me Ransom from the Equinox and Jellico from the Cairo. Hmm. Neither is exactly a shining example of Captain-ness. Captain-isity. Captain-ity. Well, you know what I mean. Ransom destroys sentient beings in an effort to get his crew home. Jellico fires on helpless Cardassian civilians because he thinks that the ship they're on may be smuggling weapons (I'm assuming this is the incident that puts him here, right Mal, not just him being a pain in the butt during "Chain of Command"?) If it turns out that there really were weapons, Jellico has a justification. However, Ransom had no reasonable justification under any circumstances. One can argue that the first one that died (the accident) was ok, but even that is stretching it. However, the murder of the others was a BIG no-no. He gets my vote.
Guest Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 Esteban lost to Commander Kruge not Khan, remember:"Standby for Evasive!"BOOM!I guess I forgot about Pressman since I thought of him as an Admiral, but you are right, he does belong on this list.I put Jellico on this list for another reason. He was awful at managing people! He unnecessarily moved everyone's cheese and found a way to tick off an entire crew of 1,013 people (assuming he didn't tick himself off) in a single episode! This guy is supposed to be captain? Would you put your life on the line for that jerk?
Idril Mar Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 Its been too long since I saw any movies... my bad.Still, though: tactical capability is not nessesary for a Captain of a science vessel. Its not a fault of the Captain; its the fault of the people who put him there. Ransom still has my vote (as if I could change it anyway )Jellico's on the list for being a jerk. However, he did pull off a huge diplomatic coup when he managed to get Picard back with the mines. I was thinking of Ben Maxwell of the USS Phoenix when I was talking about the civilians getting killed.
S McCall Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) It wasn't her fault that there was a muppet at the helm. Maxwell should have made the list. Well maybe... Edited July 13, 2004 by S McCall
S McCall Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 It's againts regulations. Should have replaced him.
Aquiss Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 ::Mumbles something about hand and butt then smiles:: Hey you ever seen sooty in the nude?? ::Does hand gestures::A.
Aquiss Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 That joke SO doesn`t work in text alone on so many levels...A.
Beta Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 I think that J.T. Esteban - USS Grissom was the worsed because if he hadn't of kept asking for star fleet for permission then the Grissom might not of been destory and spock saved at a lot younger age. But saying that the cap of the Equinox was very bad :angry: he could of got away with kill 1 by acceint but 30 40 well u may all hate me for this but wot he did was all right {joke} but if janeway hadn't met him then the Equinox might of made it home.
Aquiss Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 "but if janeway hadn't met him then the Equinox might of made it home."See, she is not only a bad Cpt, she's ebil too. I rest my case.A.
Beta Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 But wot he was doing was worng she was right to stop him and also janeway is a good cap cus she invented technoly that destoryed the borg and made star fleet stronger
Marie Pacino Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 k, Ransome was the worst, maxwell should be on the list and Janeway, was a kick *** captain anyone who says other wise will face my alter ego.
Beta Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 What alter ego. i am so scared. And maxwell shouldnt be in the lsit becasue he was a great captain and he was right so there
Devlin Posted July 24, 2004 Posted July 24, 2004 Ransom was miss-guided, he was going what he considered to be the best course of action to get his crew home. He was not the worst captain, that award should go to the captain of the USS Odyssey, although I can't remember his name he was an idiot.
Beta Posted July 24, 2004 Posted July 24, 2004 Bye the way Marie i anint scared of u i am imortal!!!!!!!
Tpreen Posted August 2, 2004 Posted August 2, 2004 We should make an official anti-fan club for sisko
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