Jordan aka FltAdmlWolf Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Please use this thread for any discussion or questions about this writing challenge.
Salak Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) I can see 2 obvious ways of attempting this... one from the human view point and one from the view point of whichever species is in the place of the Vulcans. I can see two alternative view points as well though, of which I may try to pursue one. The wording doesn't seem to exclude Vulcans entirely, it just says if some race other than them, so they could still observe the event. So what if written from the Vulcan perspective watching another species reacting to Earths flight? Or if the Vulcans do make first contact but are themselves being observed by a third party watching Earth and the T'Plana Haths reaction? Edited November 16, 2006 by Salak
Nemitor Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 this is such a great theme. I'm very excited.
Jordan aka FltAdmlWolf Posted November 17, 2006 Author Posted November 17, 2006 I can see 2 obvious ways of attempting this... one from the human view point and one from the view point of whichever species is in the place of the Vulcans. I can see two alternative view points as well though, of which I may try to pursue one. The wording doesn't seem to exclude Vulcans entirely, it just says if some race other than them, so they could still observe the event. So what if written from the Vulcan perspective watching another species reacting to Earths flight? Or if the Vulcans do make first contact but are themselves being observed by a third party watching Earth and the T'Plana Haths reaction?All very interesting ideas
David Cody Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 Well, that's interesting.Doesn't that violate the "no 'canon' characters rule since the first Human warp flight was performed by Cochrane? I only make note of this because of the exact wording of the challenge, which targets a character that has been on a show (or in this case, a movie).
Salak Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 The T'Plana Hath is a canon ship (though not sure if the name is), as is the Phoenix, though you could write this without mentioning Cochrane by name I suppose. The same problem had crossed my mind as well though.
+ Clase Drene Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 What other races had warp and could tell if we had warp?Ferengi? or a some non-canon races? I need a clue for this one?
Salak Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 Cardassians, Bajorans... I know they both had at least limited capability before Earth... perhaps as far back as the 14th Century? Possibly Andorians, Romulans, Klingons...Most major species I think...
+ Clase Drene Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 ahhh so there is open spaces in the writing of this Challenge.... mm mm I think I might go with an assimilation by the borg ... But this one will have to be cannon like mmm might have to focus my creativity in just one direction ...
Salak Posted November 29, 2006 Posted November 29, 2006 Much as I dislike the Xindi, they have a big role in trying to work out the temporal mechanics of my latest idea... I hope it doesn't give me too much of a headache...
Julia Harden Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 Salak, you've just given me a headache. I really did not like the Xindi plot. At all.
Salak Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 (edited) Neither did I but I've got a headache because..."Timeline, this is no time to talk about time, we don't have the time!" (Ok, so I wasn't as bad last night as Troi was but still...)No way I was trying to get my head around temporal mechanics last night and I think I'm having some aspirin before and after I try later today...Really hated the Xindi plot myself but it's technically canon and has a huge impact on the setting I have in mind due to it's effects on sector 001 and its neighbours. Need to work it all out, want to do this properly Edited December 2, 2006 by Salak
Jordan aka FltAdmlWolf Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 Y'all are making me a little nervous. No entries yet...
Salak Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 Well I have an entry in the works, just don't want to post it before it's ready...You'd have a thread full of notes about temporal mechanics at the moment for my brainstorming... sorry, that's thought showering for the PC crowd.
JVannini Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 Temporal mechanics? Oy!!! That's a challenge! Think I'm having some clues about an entry here...
Estantia Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 The thing is that topics like this are actually impossible for me to write as I've seen virtually nothing canon, I don't know the effects or the plots and so in essence, I can't do this challenge. Not only that but I have exams. No entry from me this time.
Nemitor Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 i may or may not submit.decides on what happens in the next few weeks.
Ryan Horn Posted December 4, 2006 Posted December 4, 2006 Hey Cara,If cuz of exams... good luck! But...using the previous "What if" as an example...Some people had Warp flight working until yesterday...some had warpflight never existing...sooo depending on how you want to approach it would determine what you wanted to write about.
Salak Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) I'm looking at almost 100 years after First Contact, hence the Temporal Mechanics issues. You don't have to take that approach, it's just the one I'm choosing to do. However, the ideas I raised in my first post on this thread could be set at any time when Earths first contact could occur with little knowledge of canon needed. It could be upon the Phoenix flight (when Vulcans made first contact), it could be earlier or later... If the entry is a contemporary one, there should be no temporal mechanics issues and thus no need to worry about forgetting or not knowing a piece of canon that would hugely affect your story. Setting mine 100 years after contact means I need to consider all the changes to the timeline over that time, hence why my ideas might seem a bit daunting or off putting. There are multiple paths to take, I'm taking a pretty complicated one...Don't let my ideas here put you off, people! Edited December 5, 2006 by Salak
Allen Cruise Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I came across this today while doing some research, I don't know if will help but it's definetly an interesting article worth looking at.http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/te...s_031126-2.html
Salak Posted December 16, 2006 Posted December 16, 2006 (edited) I'm planning to write my entry during my journey from my Uni (in South Wales) to my mums home (250 miles away in East Anglia) for Christmas on Monday... I've got a couple of coach journey's and a train journey so plenty of time. Hope to post it on Tuesday when I visit Cara Maria for the day so you should get at least 1 entry Edited December 16, 2006 by Salak
Nemitor Posted December 16, 2006 Posted December 16, 2006 make that two entries, mine will come on the 24th (if I remember, it happens to be my birthday too )
David Cody Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 In regards to the Sept/Oct Reviews, I thank you dearly, Rocar. ::laughs:: As much as I would love to say I'm a LtCmdr... hasn't happened just yet. Thank you, though. Much appreciated.
Julia Harden Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 I've spent two months trying to figure out how to write a first contact. From the human's point of view or the alien's? Last night, I woke to discover a notion running through my head in the guise of a complete story (as usual). I do my best work in the middle of the night. I hope you all enjoy it. Even if there's no decision because I'm the only entry, I hope you enjoy. I did have a bit of fun writing it.
Nemitor Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 well, my birthday is tomorrow, so expect mine tonight. I'm still half way in the middle of writing it, but at least there will be more than one entry.
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