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Overabundance of Starfleet "Brats"

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Both Megan's parants ran a simple hostel in Ireland ... before they died in a shuttle accident when she was 16. :(

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Ok, seeing as this is becoming the "pour your heart out" topic, here I go:

My character's parents weren't in Starfleet. They were a Cargo Specialist/Freelance Freighter Captain and a School Teacher. His uncle, however, was an officer who died at Wolf 359 (Pretty much the only Cliche' I use.)

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Hmmm....I seem to have created a monster.

A million years ago when I started this thread, it's intention and purpose were not to dissuade anyone from having parents (or indeed relatives of any kind) in Starfleet. I see no reason why you couldn't have one or more serving with the 'fleet.

This thread was started as some advice for those creating characters, to suggest alternatives to what was quickly becoming the standard 2-Starfleet parent scenario for the vast majority of new characters.

Yes, Starfleet is a large organization, and as such would have plenty of opportunities for people to "hook up" and breed. But considering the number of personnel in Starfleet compared to the number of "civilians" in the Federation, there are thousands of times more people not in Starfleet. So, percentage-wise, the majority of us should be coming from non-SF parents.

Alternately, maybe non-SF parents breed non-SF offspring, and SF offspring are such because they are following the traditions of their parents. Who really knows? And when everything is said and done, who really cares? Your character is who you make him/her. Do what you feel comfortable with, whether SF or not. I just wanted to start this thread as a reminder that you don't HAVE to have SF parents to get into SF yourself.

And, as a point of interest, neither of Varaan's parents are/were in Starfleet, and both are in good health back on Vulcan. Thank you.

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Good summation Varaan :)

I concur whole-heartedly. The issue is not that a character can't have 2 parents in StarFleet -- just as we don't tell people they can't have two dead parents (widow/orphan syndrome). The issue is just to consider all the other possibilities and try and be unique while following what interests you.

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agree about the orphan/widow thing up the wall it drives me, but the parents thing i seem more relaxedabout and here's why, the way i see it (you have to look at it as though it was reality.)

If Starfleet was this major organisation that had for the sake of arguement say 1 million employees and we (people with PC characters) only amount to about 500 and all of us had parents who were/are in Starfleet, when compared to the greater picture its not all that much...or am i reading too much into this?

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Well, I know the orphan / widow thing gets over used. But, as an El-Aurian character.. the likely hood of that being is pretty much 99/100. Only catch for Deran who thinks her family is gone..is that there are two surviving members. Just in the great Universe of things....she has no idea they survived.

Sure it creates drama. But is all part of the El-Aurian/Borg relationship. Deran's catch is to like most El-Aurians....attempt to hide her own past while getting others to speak of their own.

But anyhoo.. one of the surviving is a parent. A parent who was NON ST affiliated last Deran knew. Because the El-Aurians of course were not in the Federation. But, that parent is now in the fleet.. just far far away in a galaxy..oh wait.. wrong story. lol JK ahh been up too long! Nite!

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Well, this thread is certainly thought provoking.

Rather than Starfleet herritage, perhaps my character should *just* be the result of a brief encounter between a super-spy (ala James Bond) and the first female president of the Federation.

There again, perhaps not.

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lol hey, its an original idea :P

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My primary character's original parents were both Starfleet, though one is in the process of being court-martialed and one has been missing for 15 years. Not sure if he'll turn up to be alive or not. Of course, that was when she thought she was human. I believe her biological parents must have been slightly illogical Vulcans, because they left her with human parents after alterning her DNA. Oh well. Long story short, her biological parents are not in Starfleet. Ahem. They are undercover operatives on Romulus. *groan* I know, I know, but given Spock's last known mission, this could be a likely scenario.

Now, my secondary is quite different. Her father is a freighter captain. That might sound cliche, however, I figure there are a large number of freighter captains out there, and he isn't a run-of-the-mill freighter captain, either. He transports Misty Kippets from the Trill homeworld. Misty Kippets is an herbal tonic drink invented by his wife, who also runs the family tavern. There is an older sister in Starfleet however, a joined Trill who is engaged to my primary character's human brother. Anyway, I chose to have my secondary be an unjoined Trill. After all, the majority of Trill is unjoined. I've seen that most simmers who have Trill characters choose to have them be joined. There isn't anything wrong with that. After all, it does tend to add a lot of depth to simming for them, as they can use experiences from previous hosts, etc. I just thought that an unjoined Trill would be a nice take. Anyway, enough rambling, as I've kind of gotten off subject, unless it has sort of switched to cliches.

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Well looking at this thread it appears that I am about to beat me a dead horse... But its okay I have a very large stick to do it with.

I have seen alot of standard and non standard charecter types in some of the sims I have been on. My two cents *plunk* *plunk* on the matter are this:

The ones we write for are children of our imagniation. Personally I like to play against sterotype. But backgrounds can be tricky and having a tradition Starfleet family can add a certain flavor or sense of idenity for a person.

Unfortuantly this can lead to cilches alot of times. Something to think about when writting is if they seved in fleet what branch were they in? How did thier serving influence you?

With Russ I have decided that his father did serve starfleet but in a Merchant marine capacity. I have looked through the bios of alot of charecters and this next statement is not to offend or insult, But the majority of bios I purused I saw that the realitives were Captains or Admrials.

What happened to having family that were junior officers? Or at least lower deck types that influnced? And again I am not meaning to step on anyones toes. You all seem like you have poured alot of creativity and passion into what you do.

being the new person here I do not want to rock the boat too much, I will say reading this thread has given me alot of food for thought. Originally I was going to make Russ a Cookie cutter Starfleet brat. Now I have to sit down and rewrite him. *grumbles*

Anyway I look forward to simming with you all.

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If you check my bio, you'll find that Megan's parants were innkeepers ... the spice of life you know. ;)

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As I said it was an observation an dnot ment to pick or pull apart anybody. As I said, those we create in these Sims are the children of our imagination. Alot of people here do seem interesting. And if we get a chance interaction could be fun.

but I need to first get my "Welcome Aboard" Email first *cough Subtle hint*

I am going to take a look at a few more bios then maybe later I can put my foot deeper in my mouth...

As I said I sampled a few different bios and who you sim for was not one of the ones I read. So let me read a few more and see if I need to edit or retract what I said. I consider myself a pragmatist or at least play it well.

Well I am off to take a look.........

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Just wanted to say my character's father 54 years old and he's still a Lt.Cmdr. Sometimes I think it's too low. But there are reasons.

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Long, long ago when I was a cadet, I promised myself I wouldn't go the usual route for my character. Both of Tyr's parents were Ba'ku, and the only connection they had with Starfleet is when the Son'a attacked. Tyr's father was killed in the attack, which re-inforced his beliefs that the Ba'ku were wrong in not embracing technology. Tyr is the antithesis of his peoples' beliefs.

He exists with technology, although he does prefer natural settings.

He's a pilot and Tactical officer at heart and doesn't shy away from combat. Trained for 200 years in various forms of martial arts.

When I saw Insurrection, I immediately knew that I wanted to write for a Ba'ku that went against the grain. Tyr sacrificed his immortality by leaving the homeworld for a chance to explore the stars. The rest, well, is history. :)

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Just wanted to say my character's father 54 years old and he's still a Lt.Cmdr. Sometimes I think it's too low. But there are reasons.

Not everyone can be a superstar -- we've just had the unlucky fortune of seeing all of them in the fleet onscreen ;)

I'm sure the fleet is filled with people who are more than content to "do their job" at whatever rank they have. Some people just aren't suited for command. Think of the corporate world, and you'll see a multitude of examples where people stay in lower-"ranked"/paying positions because they don't want the responsibility of a leadership role. Nothing wrong with that!

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I remember one time seeing a guy twice as hold as wes crusher dressed in an Ensign's uniform on TNG...

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lmao so true, but he has a good excuse though and i'm 99% sure he makes Captain at the End of Voyager.

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gotta love those alternate timelines.

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Alternate time lines in the Trekiverse (is that a word?) is like people drinking water. It happens so often...*sigh*

Harry Kim, that poor poor little man.

"Hey mom and dad I'm going aboard a vessel as a senior staff member, go me!"

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As we've seen picard as an ensign under command of Riker as science officer. Isn't funny? It makes you think how important are the decision we made every day. Choosing not to fight when he was a cadet led him that way instead of becoming captain. Fortunately when simming we can make adjustments if we choose wrong, always respecting the coherent flux of the story. Remember that you choose your destiny and don't have to be a starfleets son to be a starfleet officer. Terpes isn't son of starfleet officers, on the contrary he choosed not to follow his parents job.

-Terpes-

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my one isn't a starfleet brat at all, and I did originally try to make her as non-cliche as pos, however it didn't work... half breed, abusive father... check... characters sometimes develop a life of their own, and sometimes it does end up cliche, you just have to go with it really.

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Well I would not worry too much just yet. If you have covered you basic thoughts about your character that is quite enough. While you sim aboard a ship, your character will grow more cplete. You can let things happen to it and let him or her deal with the consequences, emotions and effects.

Very few start out with a complete Character bio up to the detail. The whole fun is to experience the surprise when you suddenly see who it is you write everyday as the puzzle pieces drop in place.

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I know but I have been developing it over the days I spent lurking, as I'm used to rps that want it straight away...

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